jon preston - " to say atheists and agnostics and others are wrong is downright....strange". - many things in the science field are still 'theory' they can be wrong, they can't be proven.
Can you be wrong EOM? Hm? Your faith is a theory! As are your 1. , 2., and 3., points....what of it? Please be very specific as i do not enjoy jumping through theologiCal hoops utilizing my own imagination to attempt to get at what YOU are thinking. Be transparent, discreet (slave? Hahhaha jk jk ;-)). Let us all in laymans terms get at the same idea so we can each decipher for ourselves the meaning of your point to truly test whether it is true or not ( like the boreans)